a few days ago i was told matter didn't always exist.. i was told this by several persons who spoke with much certainty.. they said matter came from a singularity.. this as you know raises more questions than it answers.. have they any proof that singularities even exist?.
how come people state things as a fact, that they have no solid proof for, and expect others to just beleive them.. and if you don't accept their beleif, you are said, not to be intelligent.. isn't that a case of attacking the straw man?.
instead of the argument?.
Chappy,
Yes I agree with you for the mostr part.
Julien,
Thanks for the correction(ad hominem attack).
And good point:
I don't know the answer, why don't we ask the next Christian who comes along why they do this?
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
a few days ago i was told matter didn't always exist.. i was told this by several persons who spoke with much certainty.. they said matter came from a singularity.. this as you know raises more questions than it answers.. have they any proof that singularities even exist?.
how come people state things as a fact, that they have no solid proof for, and expect others to just beleive them.. and if you don't accept their beleif, you are said, not to be intelligent.. isn't that a case of attacking the straw man?.
instead of the argument?.
UB,
I don't mind a little hypothetical this or that conversation.
In fact I think it's very good.
What I don't agree with is when some one tries to pass it off as fact, and insults my intelligents if, I ONLY ACCEPT IT AS IT IS,(JUST A THEORY).
And we all know that revisions will come and what was thought to be the truth yesterday is now old truth, and the revision is now present truth.(A bit like the WT don't you think)
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
a few days ago i was told matter didn't always exist.. i was told this by several persons who spoke with much certainty.. they said matter came from a singularity.. this as you know raises more questions than it answers.. have they any proof that singularities even exist?.
how come people state things as a fact, that they have no solid proof for, and expect others to just beleive them.. and if you don't accept their beleif, you are said, not to be intelligent.. isn't that a case of attacking the straw man?.
instead of the argument?.
A few days ago I was told matter didn't always exist.
I was told this by several persons who spoke with much certainty.
They said matter came from a singularity.
This as you know raises more questions than it answers.
Have they any proof that singularities even exist?
How come people state things as a fact, that they have no solid proof for, and expect others to just beleive them.
And if you don't accept their beleif, you are said, not to be intelligent.
Isn't that a case of attacking the STRAW MAN?
Instead of the argument?
Doesn't that show that what they say is not base on solid facts, and so they must resort to STRAW MAN attacks.
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
You Know great escape:
As regards my little wager, I won't hold the board to paying off, based on the little matter of the general anticipation of impending calamity based upon the ongoing war, for the simple reason that the board did not accept the terms of my bet. Every wager, in order for it to be legitimate, must have a counter-party in order to validate it. As it stands, unlike Samson's Philistine groomsmen who all took up the wager, there was no consensus on the part of the forum. At any rate, like Samson's wedding party, it appears as if a good time was had by all. Thanks for coming! LOL / You Know
Houdini with an eye patch.
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.
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if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.
Abbadon,
What is the solid proof of this statement you make with such conviction:
Wrong. Matter has not always existed. The Universe started as a singularity (a small, as in REALLY SMALL, subatomically small) point which went bang.How do you know it's not a pulsating universe. How can it be proven that matter didn't always exist. What to say that our universe is the only universe there maybe an inifinite number of universes for all we know.
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
since it wouldn't make sense for the society to choose "orginal" (i.e.
pre-1935) annointed ones for the gb because they're so old now, how do they choose the new ones?
couldn't a "newer" annointed simply declare himself to be one just so he could get on the body?
This is a big if.
IF the number of anointed was filled in 1935, and new anointeds are replacements and the number of those partaking has remained rather steady the past 2 or more decades that means this:
That the vast majority of those of the anointed that have died durring the past 2 or more decades did not die faithful, and get their reward,.. because they were replaced...since the number of partaker has NOT gotten that much smaller... and in some years has even grown.
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
hi guys and gals: .
a question of law has arisen.
i'd like your opinions if you don't mind.
willy,
You can eat blood, work on saturday, eat food offered to idols, marry outside the lord, eat pork, and fish without scales.
To name a few.
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
jw's claim to trust their god jehovah implicitly.
they fervently preach, teach, publish unending articles about god's protection, even baptising converts who have sworn an oath to jehovah and his "representitive organization" .
they believe unreservedly that god takes a, moment by moment, active role in watching out, taking palpable action on behalf of jw welfare.
DB,
Good post, solid points.
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
when i read the letters of apostle paul i see that many christians had doubt about faith in jesus christ and the power of the ransom sacrifice.. example: jewish christians who felt keeping the law was still necessary for salvation.. and i also see that there were christians that were not anointed or led by the holy spirit and walking in the flesh.. as paul said in romans 8:12-17:.
12 so, then, brothers, we are under obligation, not to the flesh to live in accord with the flesh; 13 for if you live in accord with the flesh you are sure to die; but if you put the practices of the body to death by the spirit, you will live.
14 for all who are led by gods spirit, these are gods sons.
patio34,
Where did Earl Dougherty get his information?
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
when i read the letters of apostle paul i see that many christians had doubt about faith in jesus christ and the power of the ransom sacrifice.. example: jewish christians who felt keeping the law was still necessary for salvation.. and i also see that there were christians that were not anointed or led by the holy spirit and walking in the flesh.. as paul said in romans 8:12-17:.
12 so, then, brothers, we are under obligation, not to the flesh to live in accord with the flesh; 13 for if you live in accord with the flesh you are sure to die; but if you put the practices of the body to death by the spirit, you will live.
14 for all who are led by gods spirit, these are gods sons.
Well unclebruce,
Can't ever say I heard that before.
Where do you get all your information?
I'd like to see your source of information.
If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
